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Cheesefrog's avatar

My favorite line from Holy Grail is when the dead gatherer sees Arthur and says "Must be a king." When asked why he responds "Doesn't have shit all over him."

My state college educated son told me years ago that he didn't believe that the white supremacists shouldn't be allowed to state their views in Charlottesville, I tried in vain to explain to him how the first amendment can't draw lines on what is acceptable and what is not, because of the danger of what that could lead to. He just didn't get that no matter how distasteful others' opinions were, they still had the right to present them, and the rest of us had the right to ignore them.

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chad's avatar

Great one Peter. Our rights are all under attack, but none more so than the ones protected by the First and Second Amendments. There are too many, not just domestically, but internationally, who wish to see free speech curtailed.

I do agree with Rodney - laws cannot prevent you *saying* something; that would violated the First Amendment. They can, however, punish you for harm caused by what you say. This is where Walz, and so many others, are mistaken in trotting out the "you can't yell fire in a crowded theater" trope. They claim it is a "legal test," but it is not. It is not a test, law, or precedent. Most don't know, it was just something stated by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes in his written *opinion* (not ruling) on the Schenck v United States (1919) case. You absolutely *CAN* yell fire in a crowded theater - just be prepared to face the consequence if anyone is hurt.

*as a side note, as if to emphasize it for me, Jamal Bowman pulled the fire alarm in the House of Representatives office building and faced no consequences

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