many of those misinformed protesters were actually there because they are being compensated? The radical mind set is to always make false statements and hope the MSM will see it and run it as lead. Fortunately I was too busy working all weekend and missed all the “freedom fighters” in action!
These are Astroturf demonstrations - mobilized and funded with our tax dollars laundered through a legion of Democrat NGOs. Geofencing proves it's almost entirely made up of the same "rent-a-mob" people 90+ percent) who were flown and bussed in for 5 or more Harris/BLM/Antifa events last year. It's how USAID-CIA stages "color revolutions" overseas, turned against the American people. Yes, there are a FEW "useful idiots" in each crowd, but mostly these are paid, professional "demonstrators" getting paid to make it look like they're a majority. Polling on Trump's policies show overwhelming popularity for what he's doing.
I don't doubt it - they provide the fig leaf of credibility to a racket that is, at one event, 92% "professional agitators" with out-of-state phone numbers that pop up at every one of these. They are protesting "80-20" policies - Americans are overwhelmingly favorable. Who would oppose cutting fraud-waste-abuse in Medicare, veterans benefits or SS? Who would oppose enforcing Title IX in women's sports? Which Americans are shedding tears for the hundreds of billions in foreign aid cut? Meanwhile, on tariffs, we know who is most virulently opposed: the 10 percent who own 88% of the stock market, which has been hyperinflated by QE-softened debt.
The prospect that these Hands Off protestors are being paid is far less frightening than the alternative, which I greatly fear is the true situation. The alternative? The minds of these people are utterly closed, utterly uninformed, devoid of logical, balanced thought. And what makes it worse? They are not without intellectual capability; they have simply totally disconnected from it.
Is there some reason why the choice is all or nothing? Either turn a blind eye and do nothing about the clear waste - or eliminate the program altogether? Reforming things is entirely out of the question?
It depends upon the situation. If their "break things and fix things later" approach hoses up something like Social Security then there are real life negative consequences for tens of millions of people. It's the apparent unconcern for consequences that SCARES me about DOGE.
I think that apparent unconcern is more a fabrication than a reality. There are myriad interests screaming their heads off about DOGE, and most of them are actually worried about losing their gravy trains, so....
We're talking about Musk and his whiz kid disciples who have firmly embraced the "break things fix them later" approach wherever they can at his own businesses.
DOGE is looking in nooks and crannies to save pennies (on the scale of the federal budget, a million dollars is a “penny”) while what is needed is a coherent, top-down reassessment of what the federal government should be doing and how it does those things. That takes calm, responsible leadership, not bull in the china shop chaos.
DOGE seems determined to undermine support for spending cuts by figuring out how to piss off the most people for the least amount of money saved.
I have seen countless drones bemoaning cuts to any number of government programs, but what none of them ever seem to grasp is that most of these programs are beyond the constitutional purview of the federal government. That so many *want* more government, *want* government to keep taking more and more of their money to waste, even when (as you mentioned) the programs are, in their estimations, for a "good cause," boggles my mind. The private sector can accomplish all these things far more efficiently and effectively than the government. And for those who wail that, "too many people, especially rich people, are too selfish and evil and it wouldn't happen without outside force," I pose two questions:
1) How is such force morally justifiable?
2) What makes you think the people in government aren't just as selfish and evil?
It truly is amazing to see people in America today calling for that which was opposed most of those who founded the country.
Great way to start my day! How
many of those misinformed protesters were actually there because they are being compensated? The radical mind set is to always make false statements and hope the MSM will see it and run it as lead. Fortunately I was too busy working all weekend and missed all the “freedom fighters” in action!
Some, not many. It's always the case. It's part of the playbook - add deliberate agitators to a crowd and control its behavior.
These are Astroturf demonstrations - mobilized and funded with our tax dollars laundered through a legion of Democrat NGOs. Geofencing proves it's almost entirely made up of the same "rent-a-mob" people 90+ percent) who were flown and bussed in for 5 or more Harris/BLM/Antifa events last year. It's how USAID-CIA stages "color revolutions" overseas, turned against the American people. Yes, there are a FEW "useful idiots" in each crowd, but mostly these are paid, professional "demonstrators" getting paid to make it look like they're a majority. Polling on Trump's policies show overwhelming popularity for what he's doing.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/geofenced-every-event-democrats-caught-staging-another-inorganic-color-revolution
I know and know of people who went to some of these. They are earnest folks. Misguided and misinformed, but earnest.
I don't doubt it - they provide the fig leaf of credibility to a racket that is, at one event, 92% "professional agitators" with out-of-state phone numbers that pop up at every one of these. They are protesting "80-20" policies - Americans are overwhelmingly favorable. Who would oppose cutting fraud-waste-abuse in Medicare, veterans benefits or SS? Who would oppose enforcing Title IX in women's sports? Which Americans are shedding tears for the hundreds of billions in foreign aid cut? Meanwhile, on tariffs, we know who is most virulently opposed: the 10 percent who own 88% of the stock market, which has been hyperinflated by QE-softened debt.
The prospect that these Hands Off protestors are being paid is far less frightening than the alternative, which I greatly fear is the true situation. The alternative? The minds of these people are utterly closed, utterly uninformed, devoid of logical, balanced thought. And what makes it worse? They are not without intellectual capability; they have simply totally disconnected from it.
Can I assume then that you would be in favor of eliminating Medicare and Medicaid?
What *I* favor is irrelevant. Trump and DOGE are not planning to do anything of the sort.
What *is* being pursued is fraud, improper payments, duplicate payments, and the like.
Do you oppose such efforts?
https://nypost.com/2024/11/26/us-news/3-million-fraudsters-on-medicaid-are-costing-ny-20b-report/
Given the Keystone Kops antics with DOGE where they have repeatedly had to take things back or had to rehire people, I have little trust in them.
Is there some reason why the choice is all or nothing? Either turn a blind eye and do nothing about the clear waste - or eliminate the program altogether? Reforming things is entirely out of the question?
I think David is looking to create a new argument here, rather than talk about DOGE.
If you are going to do something like DOGE then get it right.
If they get it 90% right, will that be good enough? 80%? 70%?
or does it have to be 99+%?
It depends upon the situation. If their "break things and fix things later" approach hoses up something like Social Security then there are real life negative consequences for tens of millions of people. It's the apparent unconcern for consequences that SCARES me about DOGE.
I think that apparent unconcern is more a fabrication than a reality. There are myriad interests screaming their heads off about DOGE, and most of them are actually worried about losing their gravy trains, so....
We're talking about Musk and his whiz kid disciples who have firmly embraced the "break things fix them later" approach wherever they can at his own businesses.
DOGE is getting it righter than anyone else has to date. I’m not inclined to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
DOGE is looking in nooks and crannies to save pennies (on the scale of the federal budget, a million dollars is a “penny”) while what is needed is a coherent, top-down reassessment of what the federal government should be doing and how it does those things. That takes calm, responsible leadership, not bull in the china shop chaos.
DOGE seems determined to undermine support for spending cuts by figuring out how to piss off the most people for the least amount of money saved.
We don't need no education
We don't need no thought control
But keep your hands off Education and USAID!
Exactly Peter. It is naive ignorance combined with expert manipulation.
I have seen countless drones bemoaning cuts to any number of government programs, but what none of them ever seem to grasp is that most of these programs are beyond the constitutional purview of the federal government. That so many *want* more government, *want* government to keep taking more and more of their money to waste, even when (as you mentioned) the programs are, in their estimations, for a "good cause," boggles my mind. The private sector can accomplish all these things far more efficiently and effectively than the government. And for those who wail that, "too many people, especially rich people, are too selfish and evil and it wouldn't happen without outside force," I pose two questions:
1) How is such force morally justifiable?
2) What makes you think the people in government aren't just as selfish and evil?
It truly is amazing to see people in America today calling for that which was opposed most of those who founded the country.